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2018-10-29
  Second Accounts  

This will be phased out, and people will be compensated as needed. ~ BadWolf

I`m leaving this up for continued discussion of other topics.

Edited by BW on 2018-11-03
Bontis
4day(s) ago
Letís get this straight, the issue with this game was it stop getting develop into anything. I would have love to see the Kalzul and DM appear as playable races. I think a new server with improved options and rasing the turn limit be awesome. Micro adjustments to eco part of game would help out in a server, I also believe that UW should be drop to 36Hrz on it. Though I donít see why it is needed to end a server, player who does it loses everything and has to restart. Ive always thought that to be fair. And as the former GCRT CG maker, just chillian for now. Always a chance I might come back and put CGS back.
GalacticMercenaries
8day(s) ago
I Agree
Asmodean
Game-Guide
9day(s) ago
Good call. I think either a new server, or some other improvements to RT are needed. Second accounts are not a viable option.
Rambo
9day(s) ago
After reading this, I`m not sure why I still play this game
AssassinatorS
9day(s) ago
As I do not have a non-RT account, I`m definitely not voicing an opinion on those servers - should have made that clearer, sorry.
americanministry
9day(s) ago
if you would raise turn cap to 40 and 60 with paid on rt and make turns generate a bit faster but reduce uw time to 36 hours instead of 48 it would be wildy popular
CaptainCharisma
10day(s) ago
I don`t buy into this `want to make CGs/Mins/etc for everyone`s advantage`. behind I said about Turn based reference to Cg making. Not RT. Cgs are not made on Turn based or hardly at all if at all. Its not on the black market so it doesn`t affect people who make it as few or zero make it. On RT you used to have a big CG maker but you lot bullied him to quit so Screw RT Cg makers.
AssassinatorS
10day(s) ago
A new server, faster turns, lower caps for market storage, lower maximum total infra, lower maximum land quantity allowed, and all reset after each UW. Thereby disabling long empires advantages, and advantages others have for having more time to spend on accounts and researching/digging.

But back to the second account, Asmo said all opinions matter (even mine) so for some reason I feel like a free paid for 7 days isn`t fair. Why should a second account of an old empire ever need 7 days of paid for free? It instantly allows access to paid races. Not a good business model. Maybe for a new new player, so they can experience it all without having to pay - they`re perhaps unlikely to do missions and restart so fast, but for old hands? Bad call. Just more viral and guard accounts will be opened. I don`t buy into this `want to make CGs/Mins/etc for everyone`s advantage`. What`s actually happening is you`re punishing those who`s only account makes that product.

A jumble of thoughts for you.
GalacticMercenaries
10day(s) ago
i want a new Server with faster turns
i don`t think 2nd accounts is the fix if you had a server with faster turns it would make the game more real and fun and a much faster paced play and if you wanted to try different races restart and with the server being faster it wouldn`t be much trouble
CaptainCharisma
11day(s) ago
if people already made them don`t worry about getting in trouble either it was legal officially for 3 now 4 days
CaptainCharisma
11day(s) ago
I don`t think anyone should make any new 2nd accounts anywhere to this is decided on, as I am certain all 2nd accounts on RT and TB will be removed due to feedback and other issues.
wingnut
11day(s) ago
are we allowed second accounts right now? I will instantly make one on all TB servers, in opposing feds, and lug around nice clusters with runner fleets. It`s not planet trading cause everyone has fair chance at them right?

meanwhile, my beast empires lay in wait, to protect the ranks if need be.
Asmodean
Game-Guide
11day(s) ago
I believe that RT is already hopeless and no real fix would be viable long term. Too many folks attached to their empires. As such new servers would eliminate that problem and allow for players to try new things. Two such servers, one like RT but with improvements that one drive players away. And one were the UW resets everything each time.

On the subject of increasing cyber security, I am behind this 100%. My browser already flags the site as unsecured and the threat of someone getting in and injecting malware is very real. We`ve been lucky so far as we are quite small and none of us have really tried to be malicious in that respect. TLS is a good option, basic SSL wouldnt hurt either..
wingnut
11day(s) ago
I totally agree with blabla. These empires are bored because they can`t be killed and have unhealthy attachment. The only option for stagnant empires here is to commit suicide or rot in eternal vm/np. Kind of warped... UW always should have restarted the server. If there are complainers who threaten to quit if their empires die, just imagine the thousands who have left due to boredom and having to fight opponents who are 10+ years ahead of them. It`s always been the biggest problem with this game.
EPrussia
11day(s) ago
@omeg
yes but food or cgs aren`t black market available Is why I was going to go cg miner
Omegian
11day(s) ago
@EP, that is what the Black Market is for and was created to solve the mineral market dryness. I`m not arguing that it should be the only way is through black market, but mineral miner no one plays for multiple reasons.

I use black market quite a bit on slow through ultra as I make too much cash. I don`t know many that would complain for Kalzul minerals on TB when the BM is just as good and is there 24/7 without admins having to intervene.

@BW - at some point this website will need to be updated on new cyber security standards or may be blocked by most of the browsers on default. There has been discussions on TLS 1.2. Also no Https tagging will allow people to inject code, malware, etc. On these webpages creating more headaches for you that you probably don`t want.

I did a quick behindysis while at work and there are many errors, securing/hardening the site to https is a good first step. One day I right click login and the page tries to get me to download malware or something explicit like Stephens crack house (you get the idea).

There are some other areas, but ill pm you about it.
EPrussia
11day(s) ago
@omeg

my intention was to add things like minerals to normal slow, or if you didn`t know it was me asking, on ultra I asked you what does Ultra need in a pm food miners or cgs the other day, you have me the answer and the only reason I reactivated that ultra account was to make things, not dig or fight.

That was my goal for a 2nd account on normal, no cgs on normal hardly, but I know it has the potential to be abused, hence why I said 2nd accounts need to not to have artis
BW
Game-Admin
11day(s) ago
A lot of nice thoughts and ideas here. Thank for being civil guys, I do appreciate that. :)

Will get to this when I have the time, sadly I might be too busy today and for a little bit, but I`m not ignoring it in that case. Just want to make sure everyone knows that, if people want to expand talks to things outside this too in more extent that is fine to me as well.
Omegian
11day(s) ago
I have to agree with Blablas comments. The problem with an ending server would a different type of balance. If this ending server was like RT, the Victor would be the team that is most active which is then easy to win and not really challenging in my opinion. If it was more turn based, artifact restricted, then that would make that server way more balanced.

@EP, having a 2nd account on a slower turn server like slow/normal doesn`t make sense to me. I don`t see the value add in the game and see more headaches/work for admins. This should be looked at what are the players gaining and what are the admins gaining. In truth, neither side is gaining anything, just more work

If this goes through, I strongly urge Admins look at the artifacts and reducing the cap, banning artifacts on the 2nd account or strong capping them to a low amount and other limitations on how often a player can switch accounts and how long the wait times are.

I think Kalzul and NPCs are a better fix for some activity on slower servers. The problem is no one likes playing the slower TB servers as it is too slow (either merge servers, adjust turn rate gen, or something else along those lines).
blabla
11day(s) ago
knightofbaa You`re right. It will be abused. Been here too long to believe it won`t.
People will start bombing those new accounts or use those to bomb old accounts.
And staff will be busy to check if all the things that aren`t allowed anyways aren`t being abused instead of putting their time in improvement.

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